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african-americans in the post-president obama world five years after her husband's comments, which created some problems in that demographic for mrs. clinton. she now is trying to work to repair any remaining damage, if there is one. but there is another overlooked headline that deserves more attention than it got and it's how clinton aligns and distances herself from the administration to best position herself for 2016. there were two politico pieces that brought up this issue in the past week, particularly on the topic of iran. will, for instance, former secretary of state hillary clinton publicly react to the nuclear deal? and if so, how? a current decision is to stay silent and there's a lot of good reasons to stay silent. while she's cautiously optimistic about the deal, the implication is that she still has some lingering concerns and perhaps she wouldn't have been comfortable negotiating it the way john kerry was comfortable doing it. while she doesn't want to be out-israeled by anybody, she also doesn't want to look like she is undermining her successor at the state department. so
of course touched so many people around the world, including here at home and president obama, who not long ago spoke about the profound effect mandela had on his own life. >> we've lost one of the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. >> and we want to show you a picture now. president obama then 19 years old, a college student, protesting apartheid on campus. he said that was the moment that mandela, quote, gave him a sense of what is possible in this world. sending a jolt of electricity through his homeland but also this nation, america, founded on equality for all. abc's byron pitts now on what mandela meant to the united states. >> reporter: just four months after he was set free from prison in 1990, nelson mandela set foot in america for the very first time. an 8 city tour starting in new york. it was magical. it was as if malcolm and martin were still alive and the nets had won the world series all in new york all in one day. mandela spoke at yankee stadium.
. why? because they were forced to. president obama lives in a world of theories, not a problem-solver. he wts to throw money at everything. his big gernment programs are failing, period, and that's "the memo." now for the top story tonight, reaction. joining us from los angeles, radio talk show host amy williams and dennis kucinich. where am i going wrong here, mr. kucinich? >> bill, it's not that you're wrong, it's just that you're let me give you an example. there are 50 million americans living in poverty right now. income inequality is not simply an economic or political matter, it's a moral matter, as pope francis spoke about a couple weeks ago. we need to recognize that income inequality has been built into our system, that, for example, the top 13,400 households have more yearly income than 96 million americans. we have a problem here where a system -- >> all right, so, what is your solution to that, to seize assets from the upper, to take their money away from them? >> no, no, but we have to recognize there are moral issues here that go back -- >> okay, i'm recognizing.
. but as i mentioned, face time between world leaders is always beneficial if you can do it the right way. but we view cuba as our enemy, this is not the time for president obama to be embracing him. nelson mandela was great friends with bill clinton and barack obama and he was friends with gaddafi and castro. he's like the man of the year, nelson mandela, the time of all this global strife he still has a role as healing agent, bringing different people together on stage. >> and that's in fact something that mandela's former personal assistant said, tomorrow people should all be honoring their relationship with madiba, if it means shaking hands with the enemy, yes, i would like to see that. that is what nelson mandela was and is bringing people together despite their differences. i guess that's the point is what could be more of a tribute to nelson mandela than people who'd normally would not talk, talking, and i'm not saying they have to be embracing or back slapping or even smiling, but talking. that would, i, might argue, be the greatest trigg tribute to nelson mandela that could you h
to you my interview with president obama. i have covered two great world events in my career. one was the fall of the berlin wall in 1989. the other was the first democratic election in south africa five years later. i was there when the country's black majority voted by the millions, waiting in lines that stretched from one horizon to the other. i saw first hand the devotion to democracy. it was the great legacy of the man who died today. president obama paid tribute to nelson mandela today.
attention to? >> wolf, i think every world leader, including president obama wants to borrow a little bit from the halo of nelson mandela. but in the case of president obama, knicksed-race president, a man whose fare was from the continent of south africa, i think he's looking to touch base with some of his roots and also be a part of this grand increase in human freedom that nelson mandela helped usher in and which he has talked about. even last night he used that great line from martin luther king about the world bending towards justice. and i think -- nelson mandela helped the world bend in that direction. >> you were showing viewers a lot of video and pictures of you and nelson mandela. you spent an amazing amount of time with this great man. and you know, in recent years since the revolution, since he became the first black president of south africa, since there was de democracy, he almost single handedly kept that place okay. shouldn't we be worried now about the future of south africa now that nelson mandela has moved on? >> wolf, i would love for people to feel like we have learne
it is the group concerned vets for america is targeting obama care in a new video and comparing the completion of the website launch to the completion of world war ii. pretty revealing. take a look. >> the american people will win -- >> the affordable care act was signed. >> we will accept nothing less than full victory. >> premiums could rise 100%. >> the forces of germany have surrendered. >> it took the federal government more time to build a website than it took from the time pearl harbor was attacked to the day germany surrendered in world war ii. why aren't we surprised? government-run health care doesn't work. >> here with reaction to this and more from concerned vets for america pete hegseth and tara bowdell. good to see you. are you offended by that? >> i am. first of all, veterans use the veterans administration. this health care reform bill doesn't affect them. i come from a military family. my father was a marine. my dwrandfather wougt in world war ii. my uncle won two purple hearts in vietnam. they have done well as a result of the veterans benefits. veterans aren't political pawn
plans are under way. it could be the largest service the world has ever seen. president obama will travel to south africa for the memorial along with presidents bush and clinton. they will be joined by other world figures like the pope and celebrities including bill gates and oprah. the public service will be on tuesday then mandela's body will lie in state for three days. after that his body will be flown to his home village for a private memorial. >>> here we go. here's the answer to the question, supermodel heidi klum breaking the fans of hearts around the world. revealing she'll never strut her stuff in lingerie again. >> what? >> the former victoria secret angel who turned 40 in june says the thought of walking the catwalk in her underwear makes her feel, quote, uncomfortable but she has no plans to give up model altogether. she will still do photo shoots, just with a little more clothes on. >> outrage. >> she's in that jeans ad right now where she's dancing her little booty off. she looks great. >> it's just selfish. just because it makes her uncomfortable doesn't mean i
. officials say there were 60 crashes. at least one person was killed. >>> president obama just minutes away from leaving the white house for a trip from south africa. he is one of four presidents expected to attend the memorial for nelson mandela. nearly 90 world leaders are scheduled to attend. hundreds left flowers and letters at the home where mandela has died. a south clone sheriff is refusing to do so. peckens county sheriff says flags should be lowered only for americans who sacrificed for their country. >>> stunning images out of brrksz soccer fans rioted in the stands on sunday. it shut down play for more than an hour after a key contest for two reserval brazilian teams. this is raising further questions ahead of the world cup there were concerns of fan violence, amazingly when four people were injured in all that of that chaos. >> you will probably recall the adventure 127 hours. he is expected in court this afternoon on domestic violence charges. he faces one count of assault and one count of wrongs to meerns. he was arrested in a woman's home. she has been arrested on the same ch
in johannesburg. that's when world leaders from around the globe will come here, including president obama, former presidents clinton, bush and carter as well, a huge delegation from the united states. then nelson mandela's body will lie in state at the union buildings here in pretoria, the capital, for several days. and then again, the state funeral on sunday. during that entire week, there will be events, small, big, remembrances of all sorts. it's hard to understate the significance -- historical significance of this event, of this moment for this country and the rest of the world. and here as has been the case for the past two nights, a huge outpouring of emotion, a lot of celebration. but the mood is mixed. some somber, a lot of remembrances. this is the beginning of a very long good-bye to nelson mandela by this country and the world. >> nbc's ron allen live for us in johannesburg, ron, thank you so much. as south africans prepare to bury nelson mandela, his death has ignited a fresh round of questions over what his true legacy should be. civil rights icon, terrorist, communist? here to have
in that once bitterly segregate the society. >> leaders from around the world as we said at the top of the program, also starting to converge on south africa. you see there president and mrs. obama boarding air force one. they took off from andrews air force base in maryland. several hours ago now. they're well on their way and former president george w. bush and his wife and former first lady laura bush are en route to johannesburg. >> tomorrow when the official memorial service is going to take place, it's the city's soccer stadium. we want to go live to robin ker now outside of the mandela home. set the scene for us, the mood. this is day four of a ten-day mourning period. >> and i spoke to somebody close to mandela. they said it wasn't enough to not only say good-bye to such a great man but it wasn't enough to organize all of this. just imagine trying to organize more than 90 heads of state, plus more than 80,000 to 90,000 people in that stadium just for tomorrow. in terms of the way south africa is saying good-bye, you can see it behind me. it's starting to rain. people are sti
served just one-year term and stepped down. throughout the remainder he met with world leaders and he was a order waed the presidential medal of freedom and was a tireless advocate for peace and charity and the fight against aids. president obama met mandela only once while he was a senator in 2005. as president mr. obama travelled to see the cell where mandela was held for nearly two decades. he described his relationship to the man he and many others affectionately called madiba. >> he is a personal hero and i don't think i am u meek in that regard. he's a hero for the world. >> back this south africa, the mood is part sadness, but part celebration. crowds gathered to remember nelson mandela who changed the world by committing his to the freedom of the south african people. >> i have nothing but deep gratitude they have given to me as an individual and let me state this. they were able to achieve anything, i know that this is because i am the servant of the people of south africa. >> it has been more than two decades since nelson mandela walked out of prison, but for those who lived
. tens of thousands of people in attendance and dignitaries, heads of state from all around the world will be there, including four u.s. presidents, president obama and former president george w. bush, clinton, and carter. the body of nelson mandela will lay in state three days in the capital of pretoria and then he'll be buried at his home village several hundred miles away. one more note, jamie and eric, one more note we're seeing in the media, thursday night when nelson mandela passed, he was off life support. he was breathing on his own. he was sleeping. according to one person who was there, he just seemed to give up. he fought and won so many more battles before that. back to you. >> all right, greg. much more on his life and legacy in just a moment. thank you. >>> former new york city mayor david dinkins will be joining us coming up. meanwhile lawmakers on capitol hill are getting harsh criticism as their approval rating dipped. is the so-called do nothing congress doing more than we think. >> as we said and as jamie just mentioned, the world is mourning the death of nelson man
appearance at the 2010 world cup will also be the setting of his massive memorial service tomorrow. speakers will include president obama, the cuban president raul castro and the united nations secretary general ban ki-moon. security onstage and elsewhere will be extremely tight but there are other concerns as well about the audience that will include three former u.s. presidents, george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter as well as many other dignitaries and celebrities. george and laura bush are aboard air force one with the obamas right now. so is the former secretary of state hillary clinton, the current attorney general of the united states, eric holder, the national security advisor to the president, susan rice, among many, many others. let's bring in our chief national correspondent, john king, who has covered a lot of these kinds of trips. we have been on many of these major trips. can it get awkward from time to time? you have -- there will be four american presidents, current president, three former presidents, in south africa with their wives at the same time. >> number one, a
state lines and lots of things. the reason young people have rejected obama care is really quite simple. this is a generation that has grown up in a world that works characterized by google, ebay, twitter, facebook and all of the apps and it's all tailored to them and it has worked. president obama has become a representative and emblematic as the obama care failure offer conformity which is the iron plan, the tin plan and the rust plan and it doesn't work, and this is a generation that doesn't tolerate things that don't work. what he is suffering now is a wholesale rejection of the plan and it's a little like blackberry. this is a generation that said we don't like blackberry more and we don't like the iphone and it's tailored to what we do and obama is unfortunately, i think, suffered this wholesale rejection of his brand. not only was it false advertising. go ahead. >> i was going say, aisha yesterday, he was going to be with chris matthews at american university today. how does he turn it around? how does he win them back because they loved him in his two elections. >> i just want t
to offset the costs of consumers like erin. president obama asks for help today at a white house youth summit. >> i'm going to need you all to spread the world about how the affordable care act really works, what its benefits are, what its protections are and, most importantly, how people can sign up. >> reporter: one lingering and significant problem with obamacare remains: accurate consumer data in many cases is not reaching insurance companies. late today, scott, the administration and top figures in the insurance industry said they are working together on a technological fix. >> pelley: major, thank you. the numbers are improving for home sales again. the government reported today that sales of new homes in october jumped more than 25%. that was the biggest monthly gain since 1980. thieves stole a truck carrying radioactive material. how can it be? synthetic forms of illegal drugs are coming into this country legally. and can rescuers save dozens of whales stranded in shallow water? when the "cbs evening news" continues. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tend
and places all over south africa to honor mandela. world leaders are preparing to do the same as well. president obama, a trio of former u.s. presidents will attend mandela's memorial service on tuesday. we go to johhannesburg now. you've been discussing this move and what it meendz to spend the next few days celebrating nelson mandela. tell us more about that and what you've been seeing today. >> well, you can hear it as well. this constant lament, this constant song of thanks just around me here in the streets. people continue to come here. it's becoming like a pilgrimage, i think. and just remember, this is a very suburban street in a quiet wealthy area of johannesburg and ten blocks that way, eight blocks that way, people are parking their cars and walking, pushing strollers, bringing their children along, elderly people coming with bouquets of flowers. others have picked flouers from their gardens. this is a very south african affair. it's a mandela's south africa. it is such a multiracial crowd. you have people from all walks of life. and i think if there is ever any tribute to
be outdone. i think it's the record that's going to stand. put that one in "the guinness book of world records." here's another reason it's a big problem. millennials said to president obama, a majority of them are covered by their parents' insurance until they're 26 years. so they're not going to even buy into this. this is a problem with the lack of funding and economic support and framework for this which is why it's going to be a huge problem for the rest of us because those little healthy youngin's still living at home getting baloney sandwiches, they're not buying any of this. so they're not going to log on no matter how many phony commercials you put forward to lure them into this nasty trap. >> speaking of baloney sandwich, bob -- >> first of all, you know the reason they're home getting that insurance is because of obama care. that's part of obama care. you know that, right? >> the point is he's not going to get their dollars and cents. >> that's correct. >> so this whole little framework that he's made, this house of cards, isn't going to stand up, bob. that's the problem. wh
and the congress go over rag. they over-rode his veto and insists on these sanctions down there. but yet obama didn't say that. he didn't say your is country's had a mixed record. he said america was a great force, in fact the world's greatest force against apartheid which i thought was generous in his reading of history. of course he became great friends with clinton and carter because of their record of being against apartheid. i saw will smith in one of those pictures and harry bellefonte. there were enough of us and the people that were activists to give our country a good name in that country. we were lucky to make the change in the '80s. thanks again to the late bill grey. they took the lead. >> no doubt about it. ron delums, randall robinson. but i think people don't understand there were elements in this country that actually as late as the mid-80s was still calling nelson mandela and the anc terrorists. >> i know. >> yet he came out with a very forgiving spirit and rose above all of that. >> i think there's a lot of great leaders in south africa. we've lost some of them, of course. there's
the world headquarters of fox news it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. >> growing fallout tonight after a former senior adviser to president obama advises americans to wait just three more years before obama care starts performing the way the administration said it would. here's david plouffe. >> it's a fact. it may take until 2017. every state will be running exchanges and expanding medicaid. i think it will work well then. >> karl rove is a fox news contributor. to steal a line, "we'll look forward to that, greg." 2017, karl. he's talking about medicaid, not the law. but there is a lot of people going on the medicaid roles under the law now. >> more than anticipated. when you look at the relationship, they anticipated for every one person added the to medicaid they said one person on the private insurance market. that's not working. there are more people added. in oregon 52,000 people being added to medicaid, zero on private insurance. this was happy talk. this was going on, bubbling, looking excited but it was happy talk. we passed the the law three years ago. we have complete lly sc
the president is campaigning but all the talk in the world may not make a difference. >> obama thinks that he can repeal reality with rhetoric. i mean, after all, one thing he can really do well is campaign. that's undeniable. he's one of the great campaigners in american history. he twice won the presidency. his trouble is he has a little bit of trouble governing. here he's faced with a management problem, a government problem. he passed a bill that is so complex, the regulations are so complex and contradictory, he's got a website that is not functioning correctly, and he thinks that if he makes the right speeches, he says the right words, somehow it will change perception. but here he runs up against the wall. >> the perception is across the country is that so far it's been a joke and that's why the president yesterday started what will be a three-week push to get people to sign up. one of the problems is when they sign up, they sign up with an insurance company. the insurance company, the back end of the website, the so-called back end, mr. krauthammer referred to that last night, as the
about celebrex. for a body in motion. >>> from the world headquarters of fox news, it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. >>> well, for several weeks now we have seen reports about unions complaining over a new obama care tax that is reportedly pricey. we are trying to learn if this administration has quietly passed a rule giving unions a very big break on that tax. trace gallagher has the story. >> reporter: the tax is called a reinsurance fee. it's on nearly every health plan for the first three years, meant to raise about $25 billion over the three years to help pay for people with pre-existing conditions. if the change is approved nobody would be exempt next year. in 2015 and 2016 groups that act as their own insurance companies and their own claims processors would be exempt to unions that self-insure would greatly benefit. republican senator orin hatch says it certainly looks like the obama administration is looking at a special deal for unions which is deeply concerning given the problems that all americans are facing due to obama care. now the unions argue this is not aimed at
there's been pr, how in the world do you convince them at this point to sign up? >> absolutely, shannon. i think what this really shows is millenials are a whole lot smarter than president obama thinks they are. they have looked at the choices and, as this poll shows, they are not really interested. he catapulted to his presidency by taking this group of people for granted and as much as i think young people want to see some sort of health care reform, they are not really interested in being forced to pay for something that doesn't really benefit them. >> richard, what does the president do if they decide that they are not signing up? >> i hear you, shannon. the only people taking young millenials for granted is the republican party and i think your poll speaks to that. the poll indicates that people are afraid it's going to get repealed and to appeal the law. the president signed eight of those. >> that is true. the president indicated himself, shannon, nothing is perfect. it requires that everybody who is part of this government, whether you're a democrat or republican, is to come tog
, most remarkably, not that far away. we're going to wake the world up. and watch, with eyes wide, as it gets to work. cisco. tomorrow starts here. >>> fox news alert. take you out to andrews air force base where president obama and the first lady just boarded air force one. they're on their way to south africa to pay tribute to nelson mandela who died last week at the age of 95. tomorrow's national memorial service will serve as a rare reunion of nearly all of the living american presidents. george w. bush and laura bush are on air force one, along with the president now. secretary hillary clinton, also on the plane. president bill clinton and jimmy carter are traveling separately. president george herbert walker bush is the only living president not to attends. the 89-year-old is no longer able to travel long distances and certainly is one, even though it is on air force one all the way to south africa. >>> welcome back. the live tv broadcast of "the sound of music" may have struck ratings gold with more than 18 million viewers. but some critics weren't so good especially about
at the soccer stadium in johannesburg that hosted the world cup. he'll lie in state for three days at pretoria city hall. flags are at half staff in the capitol and white house as well, which confirmed this morning that president obama and first lady michelle obama will participate in memorial events. the guest list for his funeral will likely include every living u.s. president able to travel along with dignitaries from around theor
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the best you can ♪ i got lost in this old world and forgot who i am >>> from the republicans' great opportunity to the republicans' great hoax, here are today's top lines. mission accomplished. >> there's a lot of concern about the affordable care act, obama care, right now. >> president obama celebrates thanksgiving. >> people are talking about it over the country. >> just like your uncle, he spent the whole meal bitching about obama care. >> i don't know how you affect the many fundamental problems much. >> the disaster of obama care. >> unmitigated political disaster. >> this is just the beginning. >> terrible. >> this week will take further steps to strengthen our economy. >> the white house about to go on a pr offensive. >> is now stable. 90% of the time. >> 100,000, roughly, were able to enroll. >> and has achieved its goals, all be it two months late. >> is it mission accomplished? >> president obama is kind of getting all the late-night jokes now. >> as i was saying, john -- >> better him than me. >> let me try to crystallize that down. is it mission accomplis
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for letting us know what's going on there. >> national and international moment for people around the world who will be traveling to south africa. there is a sheriff in south carolina. he's refusing to lower the american flag to honor nelson mandela. >> president obama ordered the flags be lowered to half-staff until sunset tomorrow. pickens county sheriff rick clark says he doesn't think it's right. >> to show a sign of respect for what nelson mandela has done, i have no problem with them lowering it in south africa, in their country. in our country, it should be the people who sacrifice for our country. >> it is rare for the president to order flags at half-staff. george bush did it for pope john paul in 2005. bill clinton did it for former prime minister. it goes back to when president johnson lowered the flags for winston church hill. >>> coming up last night, florida state didn't just beat duke, it crushed them. check out the quarterback there heurdling over defense, touchdown, victory. highlights, upsets for all of saturday's big games. >> detained in north korea for more than a month
for democrats until they get out in the real world and start pulling a paycheck. obamacare is a perfect example of why the land of adult children is happening. for example, you have president obama going out and saying k stay on their parents' health insurance until they're 26. last time i checked, we weren't exactly kids or children at the age of 26. many people are homeowners. world war ii was won by people ages 18 to 26. by the time you're 18 you can sign up to fight overseas. by 21 you can drink alcohol. yet all of a sudden we're children able to stay on our parents' health insurance. that is not a good thing. that means we're delaying adulthood and overall a whole generation is now saying i don't know how much things cost. they're not responsible for their actions. >> there are so many young people who are the heart and soul of america doing incredible things in service to this country, in business, in industry, working every day, day in and day out. what is the net effect as we go out this morning of this interest by this administration in making children out of young men and young women?
war on women language, that it's obama care that's the war on women? >> look, i think just because a republican says it doesn't actually means that it moves people in the real world. i mean, you've got to -- there have to be credible messages and credible messengers and i'm not entirely sure that that's one of them. look, i do think, when you mention women, look, i think particularly, to reach, say, the young invincibles, i think the most important messengers in this case are moms, you know? i think these are messengers that can talk to their children and convince them of the necessity to get affordable health care coverage, even if they never think they're going to get sick. i said earlier, we've got to speak to where people live, and that's what the administration clearly has to do. and what i mean by that is, where people get their information, where people get their news, where people get their entertainment. a lot of this stuff is not going to happen in broad daylight, so to speak, like the president walking into a room and doing an event. it will happen, as was said, in small
world leaders will attend that as well. we know the white house hasn't given out all the details yet, but it's possible that president and mrs. obama will be there too. alex? >> okay, michelle kosinski. thank you. >>> the program that one member of congress called this morning the jetsons come to life. so what is that, that resembles a cartoon? >>> and the cast of "anchorman 2" join up with one direction. they sing one of the most maligned, perhaps unfairly songs of the '70s on "saturday night live." [ coughs, sneezes ] i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is. [ coughs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. vicks nyquil -- powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ where does the united states get most of its energy? is it africa? the middle east? canada? or the u.s.? the answer is... the u.s. ♪ most of
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